Monday, October 03, 2005
Redbird Roundtable
So if you've been just about anywhere in Cardinal blogs today, you'll know I'm behind. Consequently, you get no introduction here, straight to the chat.
Part I, VEB
Part II, CardNilly
Part III, right here!
lboros: ok, so we all have concerns but basically we win this series, right? how many games
bellyscratcher: Simontacchi!
Ryan: 4
bellyscratcher: 4
Dan Up: Four at least, because I'm giving Peavy one scare-all-the-cardsbloggers start
lboros: yeah ok, 4
Dan Up: if Astacio goes Lima it could take longer
Scott: Simo was at the ballpark today -- nice hand for him. I say three. Peavy doesn't get a second start.
bellyscratcher: Someone will go Lima Time on us
Ryan: or MaMO meltdown
Dan Up: after this year I wish it was Jose Lima
Ryan: really!
lboros: tempting fate ......... who do we match up better against in rd 2, hou or atl?
bellyscratcher: ATL
lboros: why?
Rob: Depends on Clemens.
Ryan: Pettitte scares the hell out of me
bellyscratcher: Juicy pen
lboros: roger that
Dan Up: I'd rather face Houston, that offense is of the bubble gum/scotch tape variety
bellyscratcher: And yeah, last year the 'Stros didn't have Pettitte
Scott: I was rooting for the playoff game today, just so they'd have to burn one of their pitchers...
Ryan: uh huh, almost
Ryan: had one
lboros: we beat the stros' pen last year. the pen is better this year, and rolen's gone
bellyscratcher: I hate the stupid HOU park
Rob: Jose Freakin Macias...
Ryan: except we could hit for good Power there
bellyscratcher: Also, no Cedeno
Scott: But Houston doesn't have Beltran/Kent this year, either. And Lance isn't quite as dangerous as normal...
Ryan: Bags can only PH too
bellyscratcher: Their hitting is shit, but pitching is better
lboros: pitching wins
Ryan: yeah, but we've done well against their top starters
lboros: diff't story in the playoffs
Ryan: pitching and HRs win in the POs
Ryan: true
Dan Up: honestly I'd rather have a big offense in the playoffs, if one guy in your offense loses it you can still score runs
Dan Up: but if one guy in your rotation blows up, you've lost a game
Ryan: working for BOS
Rob: Berkman had a big September.
Ryan: ensberg didn't though
Scott: I dunno how to think about the Astros staff. They scare me, but they've had mixed results against us. There was that first series after the ASB where they were fired up and hard charging, and we swept the top three.
bellyscratcher: I'd love to face Atlanta. So's HR off of Farnsworth last year...
Scott: And then there was last week, where we couldn't beat Brandon Backe.
Rob: I think Berkman's coming back from an injury though.
lboros: atlanta's an easier matchup
Ryan: perhaps
lboros: their big gun andruw jones is easy to neutralize
bellyscratcher: By far
lboros: and their pen is a joke
Ryan: Chipper has been clutch for them too
bellyscratcher: they have that kid, tho
lboros: the guy who kid kill you is furcal
Ryan: Frenchie
Scott: I think Atlanta's a better club, but a better matchup, too...
Ryan: furcal gets neutralized by yaddie some
bellyscratcher: Beer time
Scott: Already there.
Ryan: 6 in...kidding
lboros: who will win that series, hou or atl?
Scott: Hey, just to return to the other conversation, Mulder has a lousy past against SD, and Morris and Soup ain't great, either.
bellyscratcher: I had to deal with smack talk today
bellyscratcher: HOU
Dan Up: I think Atlanta's a better team, but Houston has a better chance to luck out and take the series
lboros: luck out because . . . .?
Scott: Is Hampton d-u-n this year?
Ryan: yes
Dan Up: I don't know, they just strike me as a team that's more likely to go on an over-their-heads streak
Scott: sweet.
bellyscratcher: I don't think those early season games are gonna figure much, Scott. That's why I wasn't too worried about Philly.
lboros: i have the same sense danup
Dan Up: yeah we had that third baseman back then
Ryan: biggio has been on fire too
Rob: It's amazing that ATL and HOU are the #2 and #3 teams in the NL and they've won 90 and 89 games.
lboros: guys like lamb and lane could get hot
lboros: it's an incredibly weak field
lboros: we have the worst playoff team in mlb history
lboros: in round 1
bellyscratcher: the NL is sad :-(
lboros: followed by a 90-game winner . . . .
Ryan: yeah our pen's not as solid as it was last year vs HOU
Ryan: on paper, we're by far the best team in the NL
Rob: The talent is in the AL. That's good, I suppose.
bellyscratcher: On paper, the Cubs have an all-world rotation, though.
Ryan: good point, but they also have Dusty
lboros: yeah but we have . . . . o never mind
bellyscratcher: They're leading the league in simulated wins
Dan Up: Next year I'm all for wrapping the Big Three in styrofoam before every regular season game
Ryan: TLR pulled a Dusty with Carp
Ryan: this year
lboros: sure look like it
bellyscratcher: I think you may be right.
Ryan: why the hell did he decide to get all macho about pitch count this year of all years
Rob: The sad part is it probably cost Carp the CYA too.
Dan Up: I can't fault him for Carpenter. Marquis he nearly slagged, but Carpenter wasn't throwing as many pitches as you'd expect
Ryan: oh yeah, there's no way he gets it
Ryan: true
bellyscratcher: The # of pitches wasn't too bad for the # of innings he's thrown
Rob: Carp wasn't slagged, but he didn't get the red carpet treatment either.
lboros: 120 pitches in the clemens game
lboros: which was supposed to nail down the cy . . . .
bellyscratcher: that was more about 20 I think
Scott: I dunno -- I still think he's got a shot. The best pitcher on the best staff on the best team in baseball, with a whole mess of wins and not so many losses.
Ryan: 'cept the pundit class LUVS roger
Dan Up: yeah if Dontrelle played anyplace but Florida he'd be a mortal lock to win it
Scott: If the writers weren't noticing the late swoon because of all the other things going on in baseball, they could just give it to him based on his dominant summer..
lboros: and probably should.
Dan Up: but you could hide Elvis in Pro Player and nobody'd care
bellyscratcher: And some wag said Willis has a great smile. Then somebody on ESPN.com said he hits well, so should win. BS.
Dan Up: Marquis for Cy Young!
lboros: anthony reyes!
Ryan: yeah, at least if we play ATL nobody will be at the Braves' games
bellyscratcher: Nah, Suppan
lboros: bill pulsipher
Ryan: nice
bellyscratcher: Ooooh, yes.
Rob: Whatever happened to Gabe White?
Dan Up: Rick Ankiel for the lifetime achievement award
Ryan: the li'l slugger
bellyscratcher: Poor Rick.
Dan Up: The other day I suddenly remembered Gabe White had played for the Cardinals this year
Dan Up: after like two months of having totally forgotten about him
bellyscratcher: After the sucker punch in PIT?
lboros: is gabe white w pitt?
Dan Up: I don't know what did it, it was just an epiphany
Ryan: so did Boston's own Mike Meyers (not party on garth mike)
Scott: Yeah, I was flipping through my scorebook and found a game in which both Cali and Cedeno had played... Crazy.
bellyscratcher: Wow.
Part IV, Get Up, Baby! Go read the rest! It continues at The Birdwatch and Cardinals Diaspora.
Also, after a season of smack, RHM and I went out with a bang, playing Hangman, which I messed up.
Part I, VEB
Part II, CardNilly
Part III, right here!
lboros: ok, so we all have concerns but basically we win this series, right? how many games
bellyscratcher: Simontacchi!
Ryan: 4
bellyscratcher: 4
Dan Up: Four at least, because I'm giving Peavy one scare-all-the-cardsbloggers start
lboros: yeah ok, 4
Dan Up: if Astacio goes Lima it could take longer
Scott: Simo was at the ballpark today -- nice hand for him. I say three. Peavy doesn't get a second start.
bellyscratcher: Someone will go Lima Time on us
Ryan: or MaMO meltdown
Dan Up: after this year I wish it was Jose Lima
Ryan: really!
lboros: tempting fate ......... who do we match up better against in rd 2, hou or atl?
bellyscratcher: ATL
lboros: why?
Rob: Depends on Clemens.
Ryan: Pettitte scares the hell out of me
bellyscratcher: Juicy pen
lboros: roger that
Dan Up: I'd rather face Houston, that offense is of the bubble gum/scotch tape variety
bellyscratcher: And yeah, last year the 'Stros didn't have Pettitte
Scott: I was rooting for the playoff game today, just so they'd have to burn one of their pitchers...
Ryan: uh huh, almost
Ryan: had one
lboros: we beat the stros' pen last year. the pen is better this year, and rolen's gone
bellyscratcher: I hate the stupid HOU park
Rob: Jose Freakin Macias...
Ryan: except we could hit for good Power there
bellyscratcher: Also, no Cedeno
Scott: But Houston doesn't have Beltran/Kent this year, either. And Lance isn't quite as dangerous as normal...
Ryan: Bags can only PH too
bellyscratcher: Their hitting is shit, but pitching is better
lboros: pitching wins
Ryan: yeah, but we've done well against their top starters
lboros: diff't story in the playoffs
Ryan: pitching and HRs win in the POs
Ryan: true
Dan Up: honestly I'd rather have a big offense in the playoffs, if one guy in your offense loses it you can still score runs
Dan Up: but if one guy in your rotation blows up, you've lost a game
Ryan: working for BOS
Rob: Berkman had a big September.
Ryan: ensberg didn't though
Scott: I dunno how to think about the Astros staff. They scare me, but they've had mixed results against us. There was that first series after the ASB where they were fired up and hard charging, and we swept the top three.
bellyscratcher: I'd love to face Atlanta. So's HR off of Farnsworth last year...
Scott: And then there was last week, where we couldn't beat Brandon Backe.
Rob: I think Berkman's coming back from an injury though.
lboros: atlanta's an easier matchup
Ryan: perhaps
lboros: their big gun andruw jones is easy to neutralize
bellyscratcher: By far
lboros: and their pen is a joke
Ryan: Chipper has been clutch for them too
bellyscratcher: they have that kid, tho
lboros: the guy who kid kill you is furcal
Ryan: Frenchie
Scott: I think Atlanta's a better club, but a better matchup, too...
Ryan: furcal gets neutralized by yaddie some
bellyscratcher: Beer time
Scott: Already there.
Ryan: 6 in...kidding
lboros: who will win that series, hou or atl?
Scott: Hey, just to return to the other conversation, Mulder has a lousy past against SD, and Morris and Soup ain't great, either.
bellyscratcher: I had to deal with smack talk today
bellyscratcher: HOU
Dan Up: I think Atlanta's a better team, but Houston has a better chance to luck out and take the series
lboros: luck out because . . . .?
Scott: Is Hampton d-u-n this year?
Ryan: yes
Dan Up: I don't know, they just strike me as a team that's more likely to go on an over-their-heads streak
Scott: sweet.
bellyscratcher: I don't think those early season games are gonna figure much, Scott. That's why I wasn't too worried about Philly.
lboros: i have the same sense danup
Dan Up: yeah we had that third baseman back then
Ryan: biggio has been on fire too
Rob: It's amazing that ATL and HOU are the #2 and #3 teams in the NL and they've won 90 and 89 games.
lboros: guys like lamb and lane could get hot
lboros: it's an incredibly weak field
lboros: we have the worst playoff team in mlb history
lboros: in round 1
bellyscratcher: the NL is sad :-(
lboros: followed by a 90-game winner . . . .
Ryan: yeah our pen's not as solid as it was last year vs HOU
Ryan: on paper, we're by far the best team in the NL
Rob: The talent is in the AL. That's good, I suppose.
bellyscratcher: On paper, the Cubs have an all-world rotation, though.
Ryan: good point, but they also have Dusty
lboros: yeah but we have . . . . o never mind
bellyscratcher: They're leading the league in simulated wins
Dan Up: Next year I'm all for wrapping the Big Three in styrofoam before every regular season game
Ryan: TLR pulled a Dusty with Carp
Ryan: this year
lboros: sure look like it
bellyscratcher: I think you may be right.
Ryan: why the hell did he decide to get all macho about pitch count this year of all years
Rob: The sad part is it probably cost Carp the CYA too.
Dan Up: I can't fault him for Carpenter. Marquis he nearly slagged, but Carpenter wasn't throwing as many pitches as you'd expect
Ryan: oh yeah, there's no way he gets it
Ryan: true
bellyscratcher: The # of pitches wasn't too bad for the # of innings he's thrown
Rob: Carp wasn't slagged, but he didn't get the red carpet treatment either.
lboros: 120 pitches in the clemens game
lboros: which was supposed to nail down the cy . . . .
bellyscratcher: that was more about 20 I think
Scott: I dunno -- I still think he's got a shot. The best pitcher on the best staff on the best team in baseball, with a whole mess of wins and not so many losses.
Ryan: 'cept the pundit class LUVS roger
Dan Up: yeah if Dontrelle played anyplace but Florida he'd be a mortal lock to win it
Scott: If the writers weren't noticing the late swoon because of all the other things going on in baseball, they could just give it to him based on his dominant summer..
lboros: and probably should.
Dan Up: but you could hide Elvis in Pro Player and nobody'd care
bellyscratcher: And some wag said Willis has a great smile. Then somebody on ESPN.com said he hits well, so should win. BS.
Dan Up: Marquis for Cy Young!
lboros: anthony reyes!
Ryan: yeah, at least if we play ATL nobody will be at the Braves' games
bellyscratcher: Nah, Suppan
lboros: bill pulsipher
Ryan: nice
bellyscratcher: Ooooh, yes.
Rob: Whatever happened to Gabe White?
Dan Up: Rick Ankiel for the lifetime achievement award
Ryan: the li'l slugger
bellyscratcher: Poor Rick.
Dan Up: The other day I suddenly remembered Gabe White had played for the Cardinals this year
Dan Up: after like two months of having totally forgotten about him
bellyscratcher: After the sucker punch in PIT?
lboros: is gabe white w pitt?
Dan Up: I don't know what did it, it was just an epiphany
Ryan: so did Boston's own Mike Meyers (not party on garth mike)
Scott: Yeah, I was flipping through my scorebook and found a game in which both Cali and Cedeno had played... Crazy.
bellyscratcher: Wow.
Part IV, Get Up, Baby! Go read the rest! It continues at The Birdwatch and Cardinals Diaspora.
Also, after a season of smack, RHM and I went out with a bang, playing Hangman, which I messed up.
